tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post2573879682257341891..comments2023-05-18T11:00:46.711-05:00Comments on linda's yoga journey: "I don’t know how old yoga is and neither do you" -- part 1Linda-Samahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07664989345039365084noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-34634901808243993542009-12-05T19:06:40.046-06:002009-12-05T19:06:40.046-06:00Nice article Svasti,
Nick talking about Yoga is l...Nice article Svasti,<br /><br />Nick talking about Yoga is like Paris Hilton talking about the economy ;-) <br /><br />Why are going letting Nick get under your skin? Let Nick and Bob think and say whatever they want, all that matters is what you think. Time for some meditation sessions… <br /><br /><br />AjitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-56456983272366826132009-12-03T22:30:27.835-06:002009-12-03T22:30:27.835-06:00Svasti.
That's why I appreciate all nuances a...Svasti.<br /><br />That's why I appreciate all nuances and subtlety you and Linda have brought to this discussion. We have all learned a lot because of your willingness to engage and speak out.<br /><br />Bob Weisenberg<br />YogaDemystified.comBob Weisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442738029941563325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-60419277337081787192009-12-03T20:41:56.679-06:002009-12-03T20:41:56.679-06:00Hi Bob,
Sure, Nick has made a literally truthful ...Hi Bob, <br />Sure, Nick has made a literally truthful statement. I guess my issue is that there's no real value in saying that, unless one is trying to cut yoga down to size. Or perhaps to have something to say that sounds authoratative?<br />And when it boils down to it, that's probably what was making me angry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-8526080571851903042009-12-03T08:41:35.603-06:002009-12-03T08:41:35.603-06:00"I wouldn't be surprised to hear if the n..."I wouldn't be surprised to hear if the new age guru's of America claim that they invented yoga in California."<br /><br />actually I thought Madonna invented yoga....;)Linda-Samahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664989345039365084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-32342407606554641762009-12-03T08:02:31.624-06:002009-12-03T08:02:31.624-06:00Hi, Svasti.
I agree completely with you that even...Hi, Svasti.<br /><br />I agree completely with you that even modern exercise asana Yoga is connected to the Yoga of the past. I didn't mean to support Nick's idea of separation, only, as you say, the literal truth of his statement. <br /><br />As I'm sure you already know, and in spite of my joking about "Yobo", I'm a Yoga universalist who happens to practice the Bob Weisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442738029941563325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-37029415234281992292009-12-03T00:11:00.034-06:002009-12-03T00:11:00.034-06:00@Aurobindo - hehe, you know, that wouldn't sur...@Aurobindo - hehe, you know, that wouldn't surprise me at all!<br /><br />@EcoYogini - thanks for your thoughtful comments. Glad you liked the post. Hope you got to read the second part, too? <br />Yes, yoga is my life in many ways. I'm not perfect, I'm not a scholar and I'm certainly not enlightened yet. ;)<br /><br />@Waylon - this comment: "...when folks say "yoga&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-75420090421370016652009-12-02T21:43:32.272-06:002009-12-02T21:43:32.272-06:00I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood your meani...I'm deeply sorry if I misunderstood your meaning, Linda. Obviously if I paraphrased you incorrectly then everything I wrote in response is irrelevant and off-track. <br /><br />Thanks for clarifying.<br /><br />Bob Weisenberg<br />YogaDemystified.comBob Weisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442738029941563325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-8727445390083580262009-12-02T18:19:25.174-06:002009-12-02T18:19:25.174-06:00"Why should we impose an experience requireme..."Why should we impose an experience requirement on bloggers such that only you and a few others are qualified to have an opinion?"<br /><br />Now I think it's you who's getting your ire up and becoming defensive. <br /><br />Where do I or anybody else say if you don't have X experience keep your mouth shut? There is experience and then there is experience in ALL areas of Linda-Samahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664989345039365084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-26131848513215636772009-12-02T17:55:09.400-06:002009-12-02T17:55:09.400-06:00LInda.
Nick himself admitted that his first state...LInda.<br /><br />Nick himself admitted that his first statement, the very one you keep quoting, was flippant and quickly went on to define what he really meant in several long comments on the same blog.<br /><br />Nick deserves to be judged by his whole stream of comments, not just one ill-phrased statement. Even that first statement is completely true if you define it the way Nick was thinkingBob Weisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442738029941563325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-44678003772775834972009-12-02T17:11:47.256-06:002009-12-02T17:11:47.256-06:00"He spent six months in India visiting a wide..."He spent six months in India visiting a wide variety of Yoga sites. He knows what's going on."<br /><br />Bob, I have to say that after all this I will definitely see Enlighten Up! before I leave for my 4th trip to India. It will be my 4th time studying at the Krishnamacharya Yoga Mandiram. And on this trip I'm spending 9 days at the Kumbh Mela where some real hard-core Linda-Samahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664989345039365084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-71887382283599505982009-12-02T17:11:47.257-06:002009-12-02T17:11:47.257-06:00The "feel free to be mean" comment was j...The "feel free to be mean" comment was just intended to, well, mean...that you could feel free to say what you really thought about my well-intentioned, but not overly accurate article. I'm not a yoga scholar, and I don't pretend to be. In fact, that was the source of my and Nick's irritation, I think...that fellow yoga friends casually say, all the time, "ah, yoga is Waylon Lewishttp://elephantjournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-75156648475399818712009-12-02T14:29:53.639-06:002009-12-02T14:29:53.639-06:00"Postural yoga is a very modern phenomenon. T..."Postural yoga is a very modern phenomenon. The history’s like 100 years old."<br /><br />I assume "postural yoga" means asana practice. So if one substitutes "asana practice" for "postural yoga" one could assume Nick is saying that the history of asana is "like 100 years old."<br /><br />Define asana. Just standing poses? Just sun salutations,Linda-Samahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664989345039365084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-86151915912302056812009-12-02T14:26:13.985-06:002009-12-02T14:26:13.985-06:00You know svasti,
This was an interesting post. Es...You know svasti, <br />This was an interesting post. Especially since I did notice that Nick's comments obsviously 'got your ire' up. Which was interesting to me, as my post about drunken sexist yoga didn't.... which I guess says something about how we have different things that we are passionate, or push our buttons. <br /><br />What I thought was most interesting from this Eco Yoginihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693080137196812405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-91910251438126540752009-12-02T14:02:32.735-06:002009-12-02T14:02:32.735-06:00These are all very interesting and true comments, ...These are all very interesting and true comments, but everyone is refuting a claim neither Nick or anyone else ever made. He never said asana began 50-100 years ago, only the narrow way asana is practiced today by a large majority of devotees of Yoga in the U.S.--as primarily an exercise routine with only a touch of meditation and spirituality, if that.<br /><br />Let's all give Nick a Bob Weisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442738029941563325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-65229098784500929402009-12-02T13:12:19.421-06:002009-12-02T13:12:19.421-06:00Thanks for reading, C, but I want to emphasize tha...Thanks for reading, C, but I want to emphasize that while I agree with Svasti, these are HER points, not my points. Svasti is a guest blogger and the second part will appear tomorrow.<br /><br />shanti.Linda-Samahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664989345039365084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-7526529244561542832009-12-02T12:26:10.500-06:002009-12-02T12:26:10.500-06:00Hi Linda:
You make good points. We need to get p...Hi Linda:<br /><br />You make good points. We need to get past the notion that asanas as we know them came mainly from Sri Krishnamacharya or the Mysore palace. Having grown up in India, about 80 miles from Mysore, I was exposed to many humble yogis who had no affiliation to the Krishnamacharya lineage. <br /><br />India is full of thousands of yogis who in certain cases have a long family Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-64619468453471157622009-12-02T09:07:02.381-06:002009-12-02T09:07:02.381-06:00Hi, Svasti. Thanks so much for writing this excel...Hi, Svasti. Thanks so much for writing this excellent guest blog.<br /><br />My only comment here is that I personally found Nick's understanding to be quite a bit more subtle and nuanced than you're making him sound above. He quickly admitted that his first blanket 100 year-old statement was "flippant", and then went on to clarify repeatedly that he just meant the way the Bob Weisenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442738029941563325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11695025.post-88147573124376161092009-12-02T08:29:36.172-06:002009-12-02T08:29:36.172-06:00Compilation and dating of Patanjali's Yoga Sut...Compilation and dating of Patanjali's Yoga Sutra's<br /><br />Radhakrishnan and Moore attribute the text to Patanjali, dating it as 2nd century BCE.Scholars such as S.N. Dasgupta, claim this is the same Patanjali who authored the Mahabhasya, a treatise on Sanskrit grammar.<br /><br />Indologist Axel Michaels disagrees that the work was written by Patanjali, characterizing it instead as a Aurobindohttp://www.aurobindo.in/noreply@blogger.com